DEEPWHITE 发表于 2008-10-17 15:25:43

关于河图与先天八卦的疑问？

<P>我们都知道河图的南边是二七火，西边是四九金</P>
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<P>传说伏义根据河图演变出先天八卦</P>
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<P>很多书都将先天图按数字表示为</P>
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<P>并根据河图的对应关系归纳：四九金、一六水、三八木、二七火。</P>
<P><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #eff2ff">在下有一个疑问，为什么河图中四九金在西，二七火在南，而在先天八卦中四九金在南，二七火在西，老阳和少阳相移位，这是为什么呢？</FONT></P>
<P><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #eff2ff">恕后学愚钝！还望前辈们莫笑我无知！ </FONT></P>

[ 本帖最后由 DEEPWHITE 于 2008-10-17 15:27 编辑 ]

txg3397 发表于 2008-10-17 21:59:30

<P>原帖由 <I>DEEPWHITE</I> 于 2008-10-17 15:25 发表 <A href="http://www.fengshui-168.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=201380&amp;ptid=24423" target=_blank><IMG alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/common/back.gif" border=0></A> 我们都知道河图的南边是二七火，西边是四九金 88201 传说伏义根据河图演变出先天八卦 兑 乾 巽 离 五 坎 震 坤 艮很多书都将先天图按数字表示为 四 九 ... </P>
<P>自无而有，河图至洛书；自有而无，洛书至河图。 </P>

DEEPWHITE 发表于 2008-10-19 11:20:12

为何没有人解答呢？是问题太愚昧了？

太阳谷逍遥翁 发表于 2008-10-19 15:10:30

先天八卦说的是气，即在天成像；后天八卦是形，即后天八卦！后天八卦中主水坎卦在北，而先天八卦中坎卦的位置居于正西金位；“金生丽水”便有此而来。长江、黄河的源头也正是在正西金位上，由西向东奔流而去。正应证了“天道左旋，地道右转”－《淮南子》，与地球自西向东即从右向左转动相吻合！
先天图与后天图隐藏着许多奥妙！北宋的邵雍对此－“顺、逆”了然于胸，他在《观物外篇》中说：“数往者顺，若逆天而行，是左旋也，皆未生之卦也”

DEEPWHITE 发表于 2008-10-19 19:45:06

谢谢先生答复，天左旋地右旋，不知旋晕了多少门外汉！先生说的是不是阳顺生，阴逆克的道理？不过还是难解我心中疑惑！

太阳谷逍遥翁 发表于 2008-10-19 20:43:22

嘿嘿！看样子，老兄还是不能领悟呀！谜底是：阴阳转换为五行，五行产生的顺序！老兄仔细琢磨吧！

巨蟹龍 发表于 2008-10-22 08:34:36

<P><STRONG><FONT color=blue size=5>天地交媾化成子孫64卦炁，炁分兩片，正零化出128炁變，總歸九炁之位，以數入替，歸復原炁之處，所以九四三八二七六一之數，歸分陰陽兩境之位，分蘊兩象，始之歸數也。 </FONT></STRONG></P>
<P><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #eff2ff" color=blue size=5><STRONG></STRONG></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
<P><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #eff2ff" color=blue size=5><STRONG>所以一般九四三八二七六一，此乃<FONT color=red>天地蘊行總歸替數之論</FONT>也。 </STRONG></FONT></P>
<P><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #eff2ff" color=blue size=5><STRONG></STRONG></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
<P><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #eff2ff" color=blue size=5><STRONG>知其臻理之義，此<FONT color=red>歸數</FONT>則足以明義也。 </STRONG></FONT></P>
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紫铂 发表于 2010-10-20 12:34:21

先天八卦
是論時不論空的

LINXUBIN0754 发表于 2010-10-21 12:11:03

阴阳转换为五行，五行产生的顺序！
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