二版《堪舆正经》“乾山乾向水朝乾”段解析

東離子 发表于 2008-8-19 22:30:39

原帖由 清寒 于 2008-8-19 15:09 发表 <A href="http://www.fengshui-168.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=159640&ptid=18680" target=_blank><IMG alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/common/back.gif" border=0></A> 原帖由東離子于 2008-7-20 11:09 发表乾山乾向..卯山卯向..午山午向..坤山坤向..四局函八局以卦象解義是龍向水峰兼收的法門先天八卦為體後天八卦為用此四局為體用的具體應用如意門歸為演繹天地生成 ... 
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山水时空缘 发表于 2008-8-20 17:16:23

原帖由 chenzhengru 于 2008-8-18 10:28 发表 <A href="http://www.fengshui-168.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=158807&ptid=18680" target=_blank><IMG alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/common/back.gif" border=0></A>   山水兄，经文中说到一路，但并没有说是阳一路或阴一路，阴与阳可以是一路啊。四十八局顺逆，经文中也隐出阳顺阴逆之意，这是与传统的阴阳五行概念有所区别的说法，也须留意。 
“午2、9丁4向（顺阳、五行火金），坤8申3、6（顺阴、五行水木）\卯1、6乙8（顺阳、五行水木）\乾4亥9（顺阴、五行为金）可做水。”他们的共同点：顺时针排列。所以，向水一路就是：“向与水”必须同时顺排或逆排。“同一路”也可以理解为同一类或同一物种。水与向的关系是；生入、克入、比和的关系，向为主。<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
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txg3397 发表于 2008-8-20 23:24:53

山水兄：
24山分顺逆，于此只须分顺时针阳和逆时针阴，无须参杂先天罗经之阴阳。故乾坤卯午四者，在此皆为阳顺。
同一路即同一顺逆，亦即同一阴阳。
水和向之关系可分五种，以水生入克入向为最佳。然向与水之五行并非16水27火之类，而是三般卦之等边三角形及先天罗经五行。

山水时空缘 发表于 2008-8-21 11:20:13

原帖由 txg3397 于 2008-8-20 23:24 发表 <A href="http://www.fengshui-168.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=160550&ptid=18680" target=_blank><IMG alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/common/back.gif" border=0></A> 山水兄： 24山分顺逆，于此只须分顺时针阳和逆时针阴，无须参杂先天罗经之阴阳。故乾坤卯午四者，在此皆为阳顺。同一路即同一顺逆，亦即同一阴阳。水和向之关系可分五种，以水生入克入向为最佳。然 ... 

午丁向（五行为寅午戌火）：
坤申水（五行为申子辰水），克入关系．
乾亥水（五行为亥卯未木），生入关系．
卯乙水（五行为亥卯未木）.生入关系．

txg3397 发表于 2008-8-22 01:12:19

山水兄：偶赞同你的三合看法，但是我想应该还有一种五行的看法。

山里山外 发表于 2008-8-22 07:57:14

一版时陈先生五行我理解为

三十二卦五行，如有一例，二版书中写到五行不能死咬一种五行不放，而是由山水组合而变化的五行．如果说由组合而论五行，那么山水兄，已三般卦组合，这点好象正确地．还望陈先生出来指正．

cderwu 发表于 2008-8-22 10:10:35

原帖由 山水时空缘 于 2008-8-21 11:20 发表 <A href="http://www.fengshui-168.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=160685&ptid=18680" target=_blank><IMG alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/common/back.gif" border=0></A>
午丁向（五行为寅午戌火）：
坤申水（五行为申子辰水），克入关系．
乾亥水（五行为亥卯未木），生入关系．
卯乙水（五行为亥卯未木）.生入关系．
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chenzhengru 发表于 2008-8-22 10:25:53

原帖由 山水时空缘 于 2008-8-20 17:16 发表 <A href="http://www.fengshui-168.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=160352&ptid=18680" target=_blank><IMG alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/common/back.gif" border=0></A> “午2、9丁4向（顺阳、五行火金），坤8申3、6（顺阴、五行水木）\卯1、6乙8（顺阳、五行水木）\乾4亥9（顺阴、五行为金）可做水。”他们的共同点：顺时针排列。所以，向水一路就是：“向与水”必须同时顺排或逆排。 ... 
 
山水兄，关于阴阳五行，建议还是多对照二版《正经》中的“律吕、阴阳五行统一图”来思考。而午2、9火金，丁4金等说法则不敢同。

山水时空缘 发表于 2008-8-22 15:07:13

原帖由 cderwu 于 2008-8-22 10:10 发表 <A href="http://www.fengshui-168.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=161249&ptid=18680" target=_blank><IMG alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/common/back.gif" border=0></A> 兄說著好青囊奧語：從外生入名為進，定知財寶積如山；從內生出名為退，家內錢財皆癈盡。生入剋入名為旺，子孫高官盡富貴；生出剋出名為衰，年年災禍如鼎沸。生入生出、剋入剋出及比和的學理區分由客生主，為生入 ... 
 
山水之气到"穴"是从“坐向”引进，如"龙气"通过“坐”接入穴中，"水气"通过“向”灌入穴中。龙气阴（或雄）要与水气阳（或雌）交媾。所以在五行生入克入关系中，以坐、向为主，龙、水为客。

chenzhengru 发表于 2008-8-22 17:21:07

吉门发表于 2008-8-25 16:18:40

原帖由 地神 于 2008-7-23 15:12 发表 <A href="http://www.fengshui-168.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=146816&ptid=18680" target=_blank><IMG alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/common/back.gif" border=0></A> 作一解说
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刘江东坟，巽山乾向兼辰，为坐睽卦，为二运卦，水口蒙，在庚酉，也为二运卦，那道，这不是巽山巽向，巽水流么。
 
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竹山微尘 发表于 2008-8-25 17:18:09

原帖由 山水时空缘 于 2008-8-15 10:40 发表 <A href="http://www.fengshui-168.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=157095&ptid=18680" target=_blank><IMG alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/common/back.gif" border=0></A> "３、“寅”辰３０度含：壬子（阴）、子壬（阴）、子癸（阳）、癸子（阳）四星各７．５度。４、“申”辰３０度含：艮寅（阴）、寅艮（阴）、寅甲（阳）、甲寅（阳）四星各７．５度。" 以上有误，应改成以下表述： ... 
 
阴阳如何定？

chenzhengru 发表于 2008-8-30 17:59:58

原帖由 竹山微尘 于 2008-8-25 17:18 发表 <A href="http://www.fengshui-168.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=163676&ptid=18680" target=_blank><IMG alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/common/back.gif" border=0></A>   阴阳如何定？ 
 
左为阳，右为阴，这是奥语中杨公明确交代过的。

山水时空缘 发表于 2008-9-2 17:30:50

一、"子"辰宫（30度）由4星（7.5度）组成:壬子(阴)、子壬(阴)、子癸（阳）、癸子（阳）。
二、壬子(阴)指壬兼子顺时针，但干维顺时针为阴；子癸（阳）指子兼癸顺时针，但地支顺时针为阳。
三、律吕、阴阳五行统一图：“子”辰宫对应律吕“黄钟”；“子壬”五行（做动词解：行走5步之意），那么，“子壬”（阴）龙五行到“未坤（阳）水”对应律吕“林钟”，也是“城门”之一。

cderwu 发表于 2008-9-2 21:54:54

律吕为出发点来推演五行，进而划分五行的阴阳属性。以酉山顺逆两局酉辛和酉庚为例。酉辛为阳顺局而酉庚为阴逆局。酉为八月南吕，酉辛顺，则以逆八位（八个月）之正月太族也即艮寅生之，而艮寅顺行八月，过寅至卯直至酉辛，隔八（连本位）而生酉辛，这就是律吕的隔八相生。而从酉辛起顺行，历戌、亥、子、丑而至寅，共历五位，这是阳从左边顺转五位而至艮寅。艮寅为寅之右边属阴，逆行丑、子、亥、戌至酉辛，这就是五行阴从右路转相通。酉庚逆，则以顺八位（八个月）之三月姑洗也即巽辰生之，巽辰则逆行八月，过辰至卯直至酉庚，这也是律吕的隔八相生。从酉庚开始逆行，历申、未、午、巳而及辰，也历五位，这是五行的阴从右路转相通。反过来，从辰之左边巽辰顺行五位也可以通于酉庚。由此我们可以看到，阴阳五行是律吕的归纳和提炼。五行又是八卦之祖，读者可以在奥语有关章节的注传中继续体会。阴阳五行这一杰出贡献归功于人文始祖伏羲大帝。
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呂律陰陽五行 
陽—六律（奇數）：1太簇、3姑洗、5蕤賓、7夷則、09無射、11黃鐘。
 
陰—六呂（偶數）：2夾鐘、4中呂、6林鐘、8南呂、10應鐘、12大呂。

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cderwu 发表于 2008-9-2 22:27:43

請問c兄
丙午對應丑艮，那丙巳是否戌辛？

chenzhengru 发表于 2008-9-3 18:05:37

原帖由 山水时空缘 于 2008-9-2 17:30 发表 <A href="http://www.fengshui-168.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=168838&ptid=18680" target=_blank><IMG alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/common/back.gif" border=0></A> 一、"子"辰宫（30度）由4星（7.5度）组成:壬子(阴)、子壬(阴)、子癸（阳）、癸子（阳）。二、壬子(阴)指壬兼子顺时针，但干维顺时针为阴；子癸（阳）指子兼癸顺时针，但地支顺时针为阳。三、律吕、阴阳五行统一 ... 
 
山水兄说的对！

chenzhengru 发表于 2008-9-3 18:11:44

原帖由 cderwu 于 2008-9-2 22:27 发表 <A href="http://www.fengshui-168.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=169015&ptid=18680" target=_blank><IMG alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/common/back.gif" border=0></A> 請問c兄丙午對應丑艮，那丙巳是否戌辛？ 
 
是这样。但玄空并非律吕和阴阳五行的简单翻版，而是更加细密，也更加精准，这一点务须注意。

小元28 发表于 2008-9-3 18:18:08

乾山乾向..卯山卯向..午山午向..坤山坤向..四局函八局

小元28 发表于 2008-9-3 18:19:26

乾山乾向水朝乾，乾峰出状元。
卯山卯向卯源水，骤富比石崇。
午山午向午来堂，大将镇边疆。
坤山坤向坤水流，富贵永无休。

asliby 发表于 2008-9-3 20:23:53

越看越昏、圣人云大道至简，..设.24山.子1.壬2.亥3.乾4.戍5.辛6.酉7.庚8.申9.坤10＝1.未11＝2.丁12＝3.午13＝4.丙14＝5.巳15＝6.巽16＝7.辰17＝8.乙18＝9.卯19＝1.甲20＝2.寅21＝3.艮22＝4.丑23＝5.癸24＝6......1.4.7.为.子.乾.酉.坤.午.巽.卯.艮.天元八山.三合为四旺...2.5.8.为.壬.戍.庚.未.丙.辰.甲.丑.地元八山.三合为四墓...3.6.9.为.寅.申.巳.亥.乙.辛.丁.癸.人元八山.三合为四生....好象三般卦亦暗藏其中.八神.江西.江东.南母兆父...彷佛古人是为了让后世子孙.有点事干.多点专研精神.才耙这门学问分拆了.....东东

asliby 发表于 2008-9-3 20:41:24

吾.无门无派.无师无承...黄寅其人.只是张狂偏激了点.其学理无可否认....一点浅见.各位抱涵....

小景子 发表于 2008-9-3 21:07:13

谢谢分享!

阿德1 发表于 2008-9-4 13:10:15

請問老師二版臺灣臺北有賣?我想買.

chenzhengru 发表于 2008-9-4 17:39:57

原帖由 阿德1 于 2008-9-4 13:10 发表 <A href="http://www.fengshui-168.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=169989&ptid=18680" target=_blank><IMG alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/common/back.gif" border=0></A> 請問老師二版臺灣臺北有賣?我想買. 
 
谢谢！但目前只能从我这里邮购，请发送电子邮件，好向您提供汇款帐号。

longle 发表于 2008-9-9 16:29:59

原帖由 longle 于 2008-7-20 15:38 发表 <A href="http://www.fengshui-168.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=145233&ptid=18680" target=_blank><IMG alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/common/back.gif" border=0></A> 存疑，不像真正的【陈政儒】写的！ 
我在这里向大家说声对不起，我也有向陈政儒道歉了，他是真正的陈政儒，不是假冒的！

cderwu 发表于 2008-9-13 17:03:28

我不認識陳兄
但陳兄水向理論很正確
與元空法鑑金龍水口(城門訣)一致
如艮八宮金龍-丑山未向=本水口(正城門)庚山甲向及丙山壬向,外水口(副城門)甲山庚向及壬山丙向.其餘類推.

阿德1 发表于 2008-9-13 17:09:34

原帖由 chenzhengru 于 2008-9-4 17:39 发表 <A href="http://www.fengshui-168.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=170133&ptid=18680" target=_blank><IMG alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/common/back.gif" border=0></A>   谢谢！但目前只能从我这里邮购，请发送电子邮件，好向您提供汇款帐号。 
請問陳師
臺灣是算國內價或是國外價,好像差100元人民幣

阿德1 发表于 2008-9-13 17:30:17

原帖由 阿德1 于 2008-9-13 17:09 发表 <A href="http://www.fengshui-168.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=176268&ptid=18680" target=_blank><IMG alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/common/back.gif" border=0></A> 請問陳師臺灣是算國內價或是國外價,好像差100元人民幣 
臺灣的網友有意願要買陳師的書,請發短訊給我,以便統計購買數量.

中國龍 发表于 2008-9-13 18:01:09

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经文解得好.有深度........交流一个难题....辛來龙...左耳秉气.丶乾落脉.亥龙.....转葵孑入首.....座葵山丁向.....这个龙是辛还是亥.....如何合经文.......

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