心海 发表于 2006-9-17 08:39:49

请问八运正神

请问八运正神是不是:6 7 8 9 ?

慕羲 发表于 2006-9-17 10:22:32

<P>以四正四零,分上下兩片,略去五黃的元運觀點而言,就一般格局,有三種說法:</P>
<P>一是談氏六法,用陽九陰六的元運分法,今年丙戌是八運,則1234 是正神,6789是零神。</P>
<P>二是兩元顛倒訣,沿用20年一運的元運分法,今年丙戌是八運,則1234是零神,6789是正神。</P>
<P>三是金鎖,10年一運,配河圖生成數,今年丙戌是八運,則則1234 是正神,6789是零神。</P>
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<P>&nbsp;以上在網路上隨處可見,皆是很粗略的入門陳述,好像彼此矛盾. 其實,還有其他條件沒說。 原來理氣的大前提──定局,三家皆一筆帶過,沒提醒初學,讓人誤以為三家上述的說法,已是充要的條件論述,真暈!<IMG alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com//images/smilies//QQ/16.gif" border=0 smilieid="46">&nbsp; </P>

心海 发表于 2006-9-17 12:27:20

请问八运正神

谢谢您的解答。

g14lass 发表于 2006-9-20 11:59:57

初入門者讀此陳述,更暈
如何是好

易好 发表于 2007-4-4 22:25:55

原帖由 <I>慕羲</I> 于 2006-9-17 10:22 AM 发表
<P>以四正四零,分上下兩片,略去五黃的元運觀點而言,就一般格局,有三種說法:</P>
<P>一是談氏六法,用陽九陰六的元運分法,今年丙戌是八運,則1234 是正神,6789是零神。</P>
<P>&amp;l ... </P>
<P>请慕版主说说其它条件,以便提醒初学者。谢谢!</P>

yacompain 发表于 2007-4-8 08:59:05

<P>原帖由 <I>慕羲</I> 于 2006-9-17 10:22 发表 <A href="http://www.fengshui-168.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=12402&amp;ptid=2131" target=_blank><IMG onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor='hand'; this.alt='Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open('http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/common/back.gif');}" alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/common/back.gif" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt='Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out';}" border=0></A> 以四正四零,分上下兩片,略去五黃的元運觀點而言,就一般格局,有三種說法:一是談氏六法,用陽九陰六的元運分法,今年丙戌是八運,則1234 是正神,6789是零神。二是兩元顛倒訣,沿用20年一運的元運分法, ... </P>
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<P><EM>谢谢慕羲大大</EM></P>
<P><EM>希望慕羲能继续说一点,可以了解一些相关的应用条件<IMG alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com//images/smilies//168/em04.gif" border=0 smilieid="4"> <IMG alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com//images/smilies//168/em04.gif" border=0 smilieid="4"> <IMG alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com//images/smilies//168/em04.gif" border=0 smilieid="4"> </EM></P>

lounge 发表于 2007-7-23 22:55:14

<P>原帖由 <I>慕羲</I> 于 2006-9-17 10:22 发表 <A href="http://www.fengshui-168.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=12402&amp;ptid=2131" target=_blank><IMG onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor='hand'; this.alt='Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open('http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/common/back.gif');}" alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/common/back.gif" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt='Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out';}" border=0></A> 以四正四零,分上下兩片,......其實,還有其他條件沒說。 原來理氣的大前提──定局,三家皆一筆帶過,沒提醒初學,讓人誤以為三家上述的說法,已是充要的條件論述,真暈!, ... </P>
<P>希望版主多說說...零正和定局.<IMG alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com//images/smilies//168/em04.gif" border=0 smilieid="4"> </P>

我獨悶悶 发表于 2007-7-27 14:50:12

回复 #2 慕羲 的帖子

以上在網路上隨處可見,皆是很粗略的入門陳述,好像彼此矛盾. 其實,還有其他條件沒說。 原來理氣的大前提──定局,三家皆一筆帶過,沒提醒初學,讓人誤以為三家上述的說法,已是充要的條件論述,真暈!


可否近一步說明..

ah298014 发表于 2007-7-30 10:17:17

八运正神与七运正神在同一地局有区别吗?

ah298014 发表于 2007-12-22 18:54:22

八运正神有二十四个,零神有二十四个.其他各运如是!

何有 发表于 2007-12-23 14:57:19

八运正神是不是:6 7 8 9?<br><br>八運艮方,宜山,還是宜水?這個案例有交代! <a href="http://www.fengshui-168.com/viewthread.php?tid=5751&amp;extra=page%3D1" target="_blank">http://www.fengshui-168.co ... 5751&amp;extra=page%3D1</a>

何有 发表于 2008-1-24 16:31:36

原帖由 <i>ah298014</i> 于 2007-7-30 10:17 发表 <a href="http://www.fengshui-168.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=53816&amp;ptid=2131" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/common/back.gif" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt='Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor='hand'; this.alt='Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open('http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/common/back.gif');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" border="0"></a>
八运正神与七运正神在同一地局有区别吗? 请看 <a href="http://www.fengshui-168.com/viewthread.php?tid=10601">http://www.fengshui-168.com/viewthread.php?tid=10601</a>七運發的,非八運發的, 起點不同,吉凶天壤!<br>

子午通 发表于 2008-1-25 10:02:08

11楼的朋友,你话到嘴边,余言未尽。能多言几句吗?

viqgmdidt 发表于 2008-1-25 13:01:01

三十六宫都是春

小樓 发表于 2008-1-25 19:28:43

<P>以三元氣運而言</P>
<P>八運正神就是「八運」...「神」即是時運,正位是地卦八也!</P>
<P>6789是源两片說..其實就是一個乾坤主體一分為二而己,</P>
<P>將九運九氣視為一乾坤主體,其消長變化如八運以八氣為中,氣形9123合以地卦6789同一片上!</P>
<P>方位有八,先天對待如只分陰陽二片配山和水才會有6789-1234兩片之理。</P>
<P>而「天心正運」之<STRONG>天心</STRONG>就是指元運這一個乾坤的中心太極!</P>
<P>正位乃八運正神所行之方位,即八運天心所行之相對之位!..淺見</P>

zgj9399 发表于 2008-1-26 20:25:56

没人理解正确 晕<IMG alt="" src="images/smilies//168/em38.gif" border=0 smilieid="47">

子午通 发表于 2008-1-28 10:19:32

还是有高人不露山水,9399兄,你是得真诀的一个?

巨蟹龍 发表于 2008-1-28 11:08:16

<P>原帖由 <I>小樓</I> 于 2008-1-25 19:28 发表 <A href="http://www.fengshui-168.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=90177&amp;ptid=2131" target=_blank><IMG onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor='hand'; this.alt='Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open('http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/common/back.gif');}" alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/common/back.gif" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt='Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out';}" border=0></A> 以三元氣運而言八運正神就是「八運」...「神」即是時運,正位是地卦八也! 6789是源两片說..其實就是一個乾坤主體一分為二而己,將九運九氣視為一乾坤主體,其消長變化如八運以八氣為中,氣形9123合以地卦6 ... </P>
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<P><FONT color=blue size=4>如上述所言,豈不是一運盤,解釋成九個運乎?<IMG alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/smilies//168/em39.gif" border=0 smilieid="48"> </FONT></P>
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<P><FONT color=blue size=4>那何必正神之法也!<IMG alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/smilies//168/em48.gif" border=0 smilieid="57"> </FONT></P>
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<P><FONT color=blue size=4>64子孫卦炁,替成數,卻用其數裝成,天運九數依據,天卦在其中,地上八卦誰能知,豈不是廢言乎?<IMG alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/smilies//168/em39.gif" border=0 smilieid="48"> </FONT></P>
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<P><FONT color=#0000ff size=4>替數一下天運數,替數一下江東與江西,一數二義也!<IMG alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/smilies//168/em39.gif" border=0 smilieid="48"> </FONT></P>
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<P><FONT color=blue size=4>台幣不知已換多少次,運盤卻是不換乎?<IMG alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/smilies//168/em39.gif" border=0 smilieid="48"> </FONT></P>
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子午通 发表于 2008-1-29 20:12:16

同一地之阴阳风水,七运与八运零正,阴风水不变,阳宅之零正会变。

巨蟹龍 发表于 2008-1-30 10:52:14

<P>原帖由 <I>子午通</I> 于 2008-1-29 20:12 发表 <A href="http://www.fengshui-168.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=90955&amp;ptid=2131" target=_blank><IMG onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor='hand'; this.alt='Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open('http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/common/back.gif');}" alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/common/back.gif" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt='Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out';}" border=0></A> 同一地之阴阳风水,七运与八运零正,阴风水不变,阳宅之零正会变。 </P>
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<P><FONT color=blue size=5><STRONG>本人舉一例:<IMG alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/smilies//168/em04.gif" border=0 smilieid="4"> </STRONG></FONT></P>
<P><FONT color=blue size=5><STRONG></STRONG></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
<P><FONT color=blue size=5><STRONG>五花肉一斤不變,一斤價格會因當時之需,而價格變動,但是如果拿出,不是當時所承認,<FONT color=red>錢幣類屬</FONT>,豈可購之乎?<IMG alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/smilies//168/em43.gif" border=0 smilieid="52"> </STRONG></FONT></P>
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<P><FONT color=red size=5><STRONG></STRONG></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
<P><FONT color=red size=5><STRONG>論陰與陽,知其有分,七運與八運零正之分,陰風水不變,陽宅之零正會變,如果零正之源,依據錯誤,何言其義乎?<IMG alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/smilies//168/em38.gif" border=0 smilieid="47"> </STRONG></FONT></P>
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小樓 发表于 2008-2-4 19:28:23

<P>原帖由 <I>巨蟹龍</I> 于 2008-1-28 11:08 发表 <A href="http://www.fengshui-168.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=90584&amp;ptid=2131" target=_blank><IMG onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor='hand'; this.alt='Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open('http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/common/back.gif');}" alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/common/back.gif" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt='Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out';}" border=0></A> -------------------- &nbsp; &nbsp; 如上述所言,豈不是一運盤,解釋成九個運乎? &nbsp; &nbsp; 那何必正神之法也! &nbsp; &nbsp; 64子孫卦炁,替成數,卻用其數裝成,天運九數依據,天卦在其中 ... </P>
<P>巨兄...近來安好!?呵呵</P>
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<P>如果兄要用你的大法..當然說不通!因思路出發點是不同的!</P>
<P>現行三元家所謂「運盤」說的零正!是兩個乾坤(洛書元旦盤)重疊一盤而成造成「五黃飛出」的假象!</P>
<P>其實這兩盤是兩個乾坤「主體」的太極點(五)<STRONG>對待</STRONG>效果!就是<STRONG>運</STRONG>和地盤。</P>
<P>而時運一運過一運從一至九加臨在地盤不動九數上面產生單宮<STRONG>數</STRONG>的<STRONG>消長效果</STRONG>,即過了一運再加一...如此下去!</P>
<P>「九星飛泊」只是一個軌跡或公式化的東西!</P>
<P><STRONG>對待仍「相對」,物物一太極</STRONG></P>
<P>大家想看看..</P>
<P>把元運想成一個九氣颱風而五黃是颱風眼</P>
<P>一運時以地盤一為正位,這颱風眼要在那個方位上?這九氣颱風的「一氣」才會放在正位上?!!</P>
<P>地以一起,天以九起相互對應爾!</P>
<P>故先天卦乾為天為九,坤為地為一之理</P>
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<P>淺見</P>

子午通 发表于 2008-2-7 12:32:28

20楼巨兄,阴风水葬时的运盘,决定是否进气,零正与立向有关,与运无关。

巨蟹龍 发表于 2008-2-12 08:25:22

<P>原帖由 <I>子午通</I> 于 2008-2-7 12:32 发表 <A href="http://www.fengshui-168.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=92215&amp;ptid=2131" target=_blank><IMG onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor='hand'; this.alt='Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open('http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/common/back.gif');}" alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/common/back.gif" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt='Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out';}" border=0></A> 20楼巨兄,阴风水葬时的运盘,决定是否进气,零正与立向有关,与运无关。 </P>
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<P><FONT color=blue size=5>每運盤都有正神盤與零神盤,此乃運盤也!<IMG alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/smilies//168/em43.gif" border=0 smilieid="52"> </FONT></P>
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<P><FONT color=blue size=5>盤盤不一樣喔!<IMG alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/smilies//168/em48.gif" border=0 smilieid="57"> </FONT></P>
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<P><FONT color=blue size=5>如果用錯誤的運盤,來論運或山或向,如何會對呢?<IMG alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/smilies//168/em38.gif" border=0 smilieid="47"> </FONT></P>
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<P><FONT color=blue size=5>一般所見先天64卦盤,只是一運盤也!<IMG alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/smilies//168/em48.gif" border=0 smilieid="57"> </FONT></P>
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<P><FONT color=blue size=5>現在可是八運盤也!<IMG alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/smilies//168/em39.gif" border=0 smilieid="48"> </FONT></P>
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<P><FONT color=blue size=5>您說會對嗎?<IMG alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/smilies//168/em38.gif" border=0 smilieid="47"> </FONT></P>
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<P><FONT color=blue size=5>跟看法有何甘呢?<IMG alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/smilies//168/em48.gif" border=0 smilieid="57"> </FONT></P>
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<P><FONT color=blue size=5>不能錯誤之法,來推說見解不一而推辭也!<IMG alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/smilies//168/em38.gif" border=0 smilieid="47"> </FONT></P>
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<P><FONT color=blue size=5>不然,正神與零神之法何用呢?<IMG alt="" src="http://www.fengshui-168.com/images/smilies//168/em30.gif" border=0 smilieid="39"> </FONT></P>
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