转贴陈政儒先生「被本地姜骂为不识龙的黄飞(魁)儒所点犀牛望月」
<p><em>转贴————风水123的陈政儒先生的</em>被本地姜骂为不识龙的黄飞(魁)儒所点犀牛望月</p><p>小地别无二意,只是认为本贴有一定的意义。故加以转贴,还望大家一起讨论学习。更请政儒兄海涵!!</p>
<p><em>陈政儒</em> 于 2003-9-15 12:05 写道:
父母开帐宽约2000多米,开帐过峡处来龙戌兼乾,向前一节子午癸丁,再向前一节也是子午癸丁,穴星起顶降脉亥壬,穴坐乾向巽,内堂水出卯乙,堂前大溪(祖山发脉右关龙身水)于约100米处与罗江交于卯甲。 被本地姜骂为不识龙的黄飞(魁)儒所点犀牛望月。</p>
正面图
正面图如下:<img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-10/200510275754659.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-10/200510275754659.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" />[此贴子已经被原作者于10/27/2005 8:08:16 PM编辑过。]
左边第一张照片
陈政儒先生拍的左边第一张照片。远方较大的为土星,距离穴场约3700米,是否牛身?<img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-10/2005102751617132.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-10/2005102751617132.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" />左外测图
陈政儒先生拍的左边第二张照片<img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-10/2005102752616245.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-10/2005102752616245.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" />二楼和三楼结合图
陈正儒先生拍的:<img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-10/2005102753719948.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-10/2005102753719948.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" />右图
陈政儒先生拍的右边第一张图:<img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-10/200510275473946.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-10/200510275473946.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" />右边第二张图
陈政儒先生拍的<img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-10/200510275578946.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-10/200510275578946.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" />右边第三张图
陈政儒先生拍的:<img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-10/200510276856939.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-10/200510276856939.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" />正面拍照图
<P>陈正儒先生拍的</P><P><img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-10/2005102762334679.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-10/2005102762334679.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" />
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正面图
陈政儒先生拍的:正面金星月形<img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-10/200510276355533.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-10/200510276355533.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" />犀牛望月-朝向
<b>三川</b>合併圖加工好了<IMG src="http://www.fengshui-123.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" align=absMiddle border=0>這是朝向圖
<img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-10/2005102764459522.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-10/2005102764459522.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" />
犀牛望月穴位
三川先生加工好的:<img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-10/200510276491991.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-10/200510276491991.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" />[此贴子已经被原作者于10/27/2005 9:49:43 PM编辑过。]
穴场坟墓照片
陈政儒先生拍的:<img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-10/200510277032139.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-10/200510277032139.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" />从父母开帐处向龙穴处拍得
陈政儒先生拍的:<img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-10/2005102771436951.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-10/2005102771436951.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" />从过峡处向中拍得一张照片。远处圆形金星(月)为案,长满松树的太阴金星为穴星
陈政儒先生拍的:<img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-10/2005102772442664.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-10/2005102772442664.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" />不同的观点
<P>陈政儒兄:此穴造葬年份不清楚,因为在1928年戊辰曾重修过一次。家乡风俗就是这样,重修坟墓所竖的碑均不记录原造葬时间,故无从查考。但此穴为我外公家族祖坟,待我请他们查查族谱看有没有准确时间。黄飞儒活动在化州的时间基本上是四运至六运,当地人把其敬为神明,后来老时,他和儿子来化州将以前所点地一一以予破坏,是出名的黑心先生。
此穴在1928年重修期间外公家族有三人下河边洗澡时被淹死,是即修即败的典型。
三川 于 2003-9-16 21:56 写道:
按一般人理解, 犀牛的角應該是長在牛鼻子上, 能否請政儒兄指出來那是牛鼻子, 那是牛角?還有..那牛眼睛! 因為犀牛的視力是很差的呀!
陈政儒兄曰:</P>
<P> 所以我说更象水牛。当地人没有机会见到犀牛,又因犀角名贵,故以犀牛名之。等我多拍几张照片来让三川兄拼拼,看是否象牛。
poksun兄:</P>
<P> 我的1点看法:如形像逼真,穴左右两边的砂手可叫牛角,结穴应结在牛头上,牛鼻子、牛口作穴的垫唇。难得的1个好穴场。丁、富、贵齐全。长房优胜。
立乾向巽,墓堂应放乙水,顾回3房。白虎方明显遭受人为破坏,3房肯定损丁!!
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<P>水木清华兄:</P>
<P>从照片来看,此地不错,但点穴怎么也不正,可惜!但从照片来看此地方圆二十米内没有其它坟,也就是真穴还在。
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<P>三川兄:
既然穴位不正, 可否勞煩兩位把他移正一下吧!
另外想請教一下, 這種所謂正朝有沒有距離及其他條件限制?
候教!
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修正图
东方明兄修正图<img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-10/200510278810103.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-10/200510278810103.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" />精彩对话
<P>人和自己兄:是地来龙剥换带煞,立穴再好再真也不出大富大贵之人,只能出奸臣的多!</P>
<P>陈政儒兄:剥换如何带煞了?</P>
<P>人和自己兄:兄看看三节以上一字所来是很清的吗?
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<P>陈政儒兄:对不起!第三节是戌兼乾来。怎样了?</P>
<P>人和自己兄:那大师看如何呢?</P>
<P>人和自己:前后都是同元之龙吗?</P>
<P>陈政儒兄:当然已经不是,而应是天地相兼了。兄有没有看过天地相兼或天地人相兼的发龙?</P>
<P>人和自己:看到很多,但只是旺极一时,我考察了明朝到如今的许多坟,都是这样,说无不中呀!这个也是风水中的秘中秘,都是随龙变星而定山向,世少有人知!</P>
<P>陈政儒兄:我也看到过很多,并且不乏发福悠久者。鄙著《堪舆正经》中就有一例,后数第一节是戌龙,第二节是午龙,第三节是卯龙,此地从壅正朝下葬至今还在发,已经200多年了,是壅正皇帝的幕僚邬先生所作。本来计划国庆去拍一组照片回来的,但后来被俗务给搅了,等有空拍了照片回来看看。</P>
<P>人和自己:他立何山向?————要看配得对不对!陈政儒兄:邬先生立了庚甲酉卯2度。邬老高明呀!配得正合本来!又配到旺气上了,同一龙出来,所用是何山向才能旺,才能久,这个是大学问!陈政儒兄:看过邬先生所作的三穴地,确实很有水准。其中在“《堪舆正经》部分章节”的“双山双向”话题里也已经介绍了一个,兄以为如何?</P>
<P>人和自己兄:不知邬老是何运所用?我这里没有万年历等东西查。陈政儒兄:后土碑上有“皇明赐封”四字,估计为后来重修时所书,但邬先生究竟是何时作此地,真的不知道。让我试试联系莫姓,看能否从族谱上找到答案。</P>
<P>人和自己兄:天地相兼也要看到头一节而定,再看所立之山向是否在这龙旺,就如同是乾山,在这条龙是旺的但在另一条龙就不同了!同样是同元之龙,但所得星法不同。</P>
<P>人和自己兄:来龙背后远处不是有大水吗?</P>
<P>陈政儒兄:来龙背后远处只有一人工水塘而已。</P>
<P>人和自己兄:按来龙看出后面当有水,但不知道只是个人工塘,那更远处还有吗?其它的在图中都有了,就只是后面没有看到有图!</P>
<P>陈政儒兄:更远处也没有,只是罗江从东北远处入,绕了洪湾村子大半个圈,然后在卯甲方与过堂水交汇,这在照片中可以看到。</P>
<P>人和自己兄:看来星法之判断在人,对与不对看得法后所用之人的天赋了。</P>
<P>陈政儒兄:可否略解析一下?</P>
陈政儒兄之答案
<P>陈政儒兄:</P><P>按《上郭黄氏族谱》“黄致中”目所载:仓地白坟岭(即犀牛望月穴星)原坟三枝,中为十二世祖,左为祖妣,右为十三世和惠公,十四世伯祖俊臣公、德赞等,于嘉庆丁巳年附葬公于中枝之右,董安人于左,捐租二十石充占墓尝,住上村。</P>
<P>黄致中,黄氏十七世,兄弟七人,排行老三。按《族谱》记载其为庠贡敕赠儒林郎,字子位,号永轩,生康熙丁酉正月三十日戌时,终乾隆己亥,谥庄厚,以四子葵诚贵,貤赠修职佐郎,又以三子德宝贵,敕赠儒林郎。原配董氏谥肃俭赠八品孺人又赠安人,合葬仓地白坟岭祖坟茔内,巽向。庶林氏,现寿八十九岁,二子德赞德宝,以子德宝贵,敕封安人。庶李氏谥肃敬,生二子德卓葵诚,以子葵诚贵,貤封八品孺人。</P>
<P>又按黄致中四子德赞、德卓、德宝、葵诚生卒年限及生平:
黄德赞:监生职授县丞(相当今天的县长?),字可参,号育亭,生乾隆癸未十一月十五卯时终道光壬午,谥宽厚。因此其父母下葬时其正好32岁,活了100岁。
黄德卓:监生,职授卫御(相当今天的公安局长?),字介之,号和夫,生乾隆戊子正月十九寅时,终嘉庆癸酉。因此其父母下葬时刚好27岁,活了只46岁。
黄德宝:监生,职授布政司经历(省府秘书长?),敕授儒林郎,字可珍号玉堂,生乾隆辛卯十一月二十四午时,终道光癸卯谥懿厚。因此其父母下葬时正好24岁,活了81岁。
黄葵诚:郡禀贡,童试冠军,任罗定州训导,字向日号东坪,生乾隆甲午八月初五丑时终嘉庆壬申。因此父母下葬时年方17,活了仅34岁。</P>
<P>除黄致中枝外,还有别枝,均在上下时间出过官贵,主要有知州衔候选布政司理问、布政司经历加守御所千总以及梅录分府化州城守等。因此若说犀牛望月葬凶,是不符合实际的。</P>
疑问?
<P>七星伴月:怎么和之前大家探讨的有差别,原因何在???</P><P>小小:这个问题政儒兄还要问呀,那其他的来龙等资料政儒兄是怎么量的呢,方法可以说出来给大家看看吗?七星伴月:陈兄:1、穴用中了吗?2、其成败悬殊,那是什么原因造成的?3、之前大家都说穴位不正,但实际已发。这里究竟有什么东东我们还想不到的?冒昧提问,不足处请见谅!</P>
<P>陈政儒:墓堂放水真的须要吗?来龙量度方法我是用“势”来定,你可以参考其它栏目有关量度方法。虽来龙我常用xx度表示,但只是参考数据,不可能那么准确,就是将24山一分为三而变成72龙,我认为有时也很难在来龙上分清,24山兼左兼右才不难划分清楚矣。</P>
<P>人和自己:这个地不是为黄飞儒所破了吗?</P>
<P>陈政儒回七星伴月: 1,穴是肯定中了,起码中边了,要不其子孙的发迹如何解析? 2,理论看来并不是绝对的,要在实践中不断修正。 3,定穴看起来偏离来脉,又是在“凸中取凸”、孤阴不化之处,但下后却出了几个在我们当地也算人物的人,不能说不发。这其中当然有玄机,有兴趣者可以找机会到实地看看。</P>
<P>陈政儒回人和自己:这个没有。</P>
<P>黄飞儒所破的是七星墓。</P>
<P>人和自己:兄能否给出这个坟的准确下葬时间?坟下三枝为何只是发了老三这一枝呢?</P>
<P>陈政儒:族谱上只有附葬时间,原三枝下葬时间不详。注意黄致中为十七世,后来附葬的,而先前的三枝为其祖上。黄致中在七兄弟中排老三,但实质上也非其一枝独秀。考其族谱,其墓中十三、十四至十五世祖均为单传,直到十六世才有五丁黄斗章、黄斗高、黄斗衡、黄斗耀和黄东卓。后来长房黄斗章生五子,二房黄斗高生六子,三房黄斗衡生七子,四房黄斗耀生六子,五房黄东卓生三子,共二十七丁,是为十七世,房房人丁兴旺。
因为十七世致中附葬,后面的人丁及富贵情况又发生了很大变化,容后叙述。</P>
陈政儒之总结
陈政儒:先作个小小总结。因十二世、十三世和十四世下葬,其单传的十五世祖开始开支散叶得十六世五房,人丁从此兴盛。请斧正!!
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